Hey everyone, my name is Anthony and welcome back to my Movie Review.
Five years ago, I’ve covered Todd Philips’s Joker, when I first reviewing it, I thought it was good. But when looking back at it, I can definitely see the praise not just the critics, but the fans as well for the realistic approach of Joker, along with impressive performance of Joaquin Phoenix’s role that he won the Oscar of Best Actor, good for him. So much so that with the praise of this movie, along with the build up at the ending, its no stranger that we have a sequel to be even better… Right?
“Joker: Folie a Deux” is a 2024 psychological thriller… Jukebox musical…? Film that was written/produced/directed by Todd Philips, co-produced by Emma Tillinger Koskoff, and Joseph Garner, and co-written by Scott Silver.
Even though some people (yours truly included) like to have a sequel, but others prefer that Joker should stay as a standalone film. But because of the success that it earned more than One Billion Dollars, Warner Bros decided to building their own cinematic version of “DC Black”, a miniseries which is much more of darker tone. Though the potential express of sequel came from Phoenix himself that he doesn’t want to leave his Joker’s role behind, along with saying that he had a dream when his Joker role to be more menacingly evil with going on stage with jokes and singing. It was pretty skeptical for this film’s idea to having a DC R-Rated film with a mix of psychological thriller and musical, but like I said, with Phoenix’s came up that idea to Todd Philips, they went ahead, along with reuniting with the writer Scott Silver and the producer Emma Tillinger Koskoff. However, since this movie has musical, one person that made up both curious and doubtful is having Lady Gaga (yes, the modern famous Lady Gaga in musical to joining movie industry) playing as Harley Quinn, it was an odd report during the development, but hey, what can you do when Phoenix brought up to have a girlfriend element of “Female Joker”, since we already of Quinn.
So, with all that said, will Joker and Harley Quinn made a grandiose musical in their insanity, or is this idea that its just as broken down as Joker and Quinn’s relationships?
Well, lets find out.
The Story
Since Joker is in Arkham Asylum (or Arkham State Hospital as it called in the movie), you think that this will be another vengeful Joker against the society with Harley Quinn jump on a bandwagon, right? NOPE…!
The movie begins with… An inspired hand-drawn Looney Tunes inspired opening sequence that it picked up a reminder from the first movie? Okay…?? After that, taking place two years after the first film, Arthur Fleck is in a custody at Arkham, which they’re about to preparing the testimony about his killings, his mental disorder (mainly Dissociative Identity Disorder, or DID) and his Joker persona. While at the same time, he sees Harleen Quinzel (or Lee for short) that she’s rooting for him for the plan to escaping to be free together for the plan of chaos in Gotham. Its up to Arthur for his struggling decision for either admit his responsibility or doubling down against the society.
I find this one is fine at best that its all about a testimony for Joker’s action whether or not its his justification against the society or its all fantasy from mentally delusion. But unfortunately, the writing is so weak from beginning to end that the story is stuck in two things, chaos and even musical. And off boy, the musical parts are so forced to be the focus than the storytelling, but we’ll get to that later. Not to mention, this movie is so slow for a 2 hours long film that we wanted to see something interesting for the developments and a small action, but we got is pretty minimal due to its weak writing, though sure, the court scenes are rather fascinating to watch, but it wasn’t helping very much that the movie is trying to giving us a build up relation between Arthur and Lee, but alas, the relationship is not only lackluster, but its also downright hopeless that they’re split up from either get along or she’s going to watching a testimony, aside the fantasy scenes with, again, the forced musical. I get they’re meant to be together as neighbors, but again, because of weak writing, it feels like a cheap subplot what they’re promoting us, leaving the relationship between Joker and Harley Quinn is nothing more but a marketing over-hype.
Story is lacking and the writing is a broken down mess. Even if they gave us some interesting development, but its not helping how it feels so lacking for what we got, making it without a story and lack of development just playing boring, in fact, and im not joking, was falling asleep while watching this.
The Presentation
The movie budget is between $190M – $200M, which to be fair, despite the problematic of the writing, it looks okay at best.
For starter, the filming location is pretty good for the filming in mix of Los Angeles and New York City for their depiction of Gotham City, especially for keeping the old early 80s setting. Though there are only two locations that are focused in this movie, Arkham Asylum is filmed in the abandoned Essex County Isolated Hospital, located on Belleville, New Jersey, which is a nice place and kinda fit in. And the second is the New York County Courthouse, this courthouse in Manhattan had a couple of histories some of you know, even if im not familiar about the live filming in courthouse, but this place is famously used from Law and Order show, as well as movies like The Godfather, Goodfellas, TMNT movie in 1990 and Wall Street. And of course, they even brought back to modern famous location, the Joker Stairs, also known as “West 167th Street Step Stairs”, its located on Highbridge neighborhood of the Bronx in Manhattan, its famously first using it in the first Joker, here, while im glad it brought it back, but like the relationship between Joker and Quinn, its nothing but a tease.
While the filming outdoor and some fascinating buildings are nice, but the musical scenes either on the aforementioned two buildings focus or even on set, I will say for the latter the musical scene set are pretty good and colorful, even if it can be cheesy to play almost like a Broadway style, but still, looks pretty nice.
As for the some small effects and makeup, they’re fine, while Phoenix’s Joker is still looking nice since the first Joker, whereas Gaga’s Harley Quinn is pretty much normally with random clothing choice instead of classic jester bodysuit or even the modern top and bottom jester style, though im disappointed on her makeup that they could’ve gone with nearly similar to the Joker but in Harley Quinn fashion. Though sure, we never be able to see the action, sure we have blood or even attempted escaping asylum, but those actions and bloody moments are rather minimal, even if its still and R-Rated film.
But of course, lets not forget the biggest elephant in the room, its the musicals. Though im not gonna talk about the soundtrack done by Hildur Guonadottir, I think the soundtracks are fine, but the musical parts are the focus, but good lord, they’re like all over…! Most musical films like say, Disney films there have to be about 5 songs, or others like say, one of my favorite Grease, they have to be less than 10 songs, but at least Grease is a classic film, and those songs are great. But in this movie, there are 16 SONGS from beginning to end. And guess what? 90% of them are just nothing more but a cheap cover songs sung by both Lady Gaga and Joaquin Phoenix. Though not going to be against them, Phoenix did a nice work of his singing performance, if you’re familiar with the 2005 “Walk the Line” in his movie version of Johnny Cash. As for Gaga, there no way to take shot on, considering how big Lady Gaga is when she first popping in with her successful album “The Fame” in 2008. And before you ask, yes, I do enjoy some of her songs, some are recognizable or some are underrated. Sure, her later albums have been changed and probably aren’t the same when she used to, but when she jumped into Hollywood with “A Star is Born”, man it was a HUGE deal for her mix of acting and musical (even though I never seen this movie), though sure House of Gucci is okay from I’ve heard. But again, you can’t make this stuff up that there are 16 SONGS in the whole movie that made the story and the action less focus, especially when almost EVERY songs are covers, with the exception of one original song written by Gaga herself. They’re all over, they’re boring and they’re downright forced…!
While the filming and the presentation are good, but Holy Balls the musicals are pretty much the endurance test of patience…!
The Characters
Since this is the sequel for return to the characters, as well as the new ones, you think this sequel will be a promising improvement? None… None can help because of weak writing…
Lets starts with our main titular character, Arthur Fleck, aka Joker (reprised by Oscar winner Joaquin Phoenix), as we’ve seen from the first one, rather fell on a pool of chemical that bleached his skin and raising insanity for crime wave, here, he was born in mentally ill with uncontrollable laughter and his madness in nihilism for being abandoned by the society, its understandable for going realistic, but it makes a pretty good revision of Joker. But in this sequel on the other hand, it feels like the promise of becoming a “Clown Prince of Crime” is pretty much tossed out of window into a cheap sympathetic man who admits his responsibility for his dissociative identity disorder and mentally delusional as Joker. Talk about a major downgrade that we love Phoenix’s portrayal of Joker, ranging from a build up clowny criminal to a man who takes his responsibility, like good lord, it feels like its been retconned from the first movie. Again, I’ve nothing against Joaquin Phoenix, great and Oscar worthy over the first movie, its because how the execution from the writing and forced music is just weak and barely helped for his build up that we never gonna get it, I know he came up the idea in his dream to Todd Philips, but he should’ve think twice before the execution is done right.
Next up, we have Harleen “Lee” Quinzel (played by Lady Gaga) unlike many versions of Harley Quinn who’s a former psychiatrist of Arkham before likes to following footsteps with Joker or even turning against Mister J, here, she’s a patient of Arkham Asylum that she’s deeply falling in love to see Arthur for escape plan to live free. This may sounds like a build up for not just a chemistry between her and Arthur, but also build up crime in Gotham. But alas, we never get it, its more she wants to see him win free against the society that she’s inspired by it, but we never get a promising romantic between of two, instead, their romance is made for musical purpose with those cheap ass covers. It just doesn’t work on both her and the chemistry. Like Phoenix, I’ve nothing against Lady Gage, great and inspired singer and actress, but its the writing that its easy to blame for poor character development and the forced musical parts, make it the worst version of Harley Quinn we ever have, again, not gonna blaming Gaga, just blame the execution of the writing, what you see is what we got very badly…
Though the last one I like to give is Harvey Dent (played by Harry Lawtey), its quite surprising that he’s in the movie. While like many version, he started as a district attorney for Gotham’s peace before his duality is overtaking his mind. Here, while his district attorney is there as a newly elected, but he’s in a justice against Arthur, even if he could be cynical for putting Joker down for his personal gain, a little… Too personal. Even though he’s almost having a minor appearance, but at least he’s possibly the only good character in this movie, even if we already know for when he’ll becoming Two-Face, or not. But il give a credit for Harry’s pretty good role as Gotham’s district attorney.
But the rest of the characters aren’t as much as important. Sure they can give us a development, but many of them are either having a minimal appearance or just wasting the space.
There’s Jackie Sullivan (played by Brendan Gleeson, aka Hamish Campbell from Braveheart) who’s the abusive security against Arthur in Akrham, Maryanne Stewart (played by Catherine Keener) is Arthur’s lawyer for his defense, Sophie Dumond (reprised by Zazie Beetz) who’s Arthur’s neighbor that she’s originally his love interest, but never happened, Paddy Meyes (played by Steve Coogan) is a TV interviewer personality who made an interview towards Arthur, Gary Puddles (reprised by Leigh Gill) is Arthur’s former colleague when Joker is going madness to kill Randall, Ricky (played by Jacob Lofland) who’s inmate of Arkham and Herman Rothwax (played by Bill Smitrovich), who’s the judge of Arthur’s trial.
Its safe to say, this movie doesn’t have memorable characters with Joker being a complete downgrade, while the rest are both minimal and a waste of potential.
And now for my final opinion of this film
Overall, Joke Folie a Deux is a complete boring and worthless sequel what we’ve gotten.
While the presentation are good at best and the acting are also good, but everything else is a complete disaster for the final result with lackluster story, bad writing, hopeless characters and the musicals are forced down to our ears that ruining the story building.
Even though the first Joker was meant to be standalone, I was expecting to giving us a sequel if this will be a worth of watching with a new award worthy since earning two Oscars in the first movie, but instead, this movie is anything but award worthy for how bad they gave us! I get they wanna try something new, but the execution that failed this movie so bad that pretty much giving us a boredom for how worthless this sequel is!
This is definitely my regret of watching this. This is not worth of our time and money spending to watching this hopeless sequel, especially with those bad cover songs that it makes “Strange Magic” looks like an Oscar worthy film. So again, don’t even bother to watching this waste of potential movie, its not worth it…!
And for that reason, im giving this one a 2.5/10, along with earning the Dumpster Fire of FAILURE.
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